I want to thank everyone whos helped me with ChromeBook so far. Ive read the docs, done the tutorial but cant seem to find anywhere how to switch to reading by word in the browser, I can do char, line and sometimes I get a sentence fragment when I just hit S+right or left.
An interesting SciFi story would be someone sighted, appearing in a future world where the entire planet went blind. Society changed everything to work the blind way, and it does, but the sighted person can`t use any of it. They`re effectively disabled.
Can`t they do video calls?
Oh, that wasnt him, just a maintainer. This kind of attitude isnt unheard of in the die hard GNU/Linux circles, though. Give people guns, and trust them to learn not to shoot themselves in the foot.
Native apps are written specifically for a platform, using the native window manager, in particular. What isn`t native is cross-platform apps, which either use some abstracted UI framework, or, increasingly, are just a wrapper around a browser. Neither great accessibility.
Native apps is pretty much apps using the "native" win32 UI stack and such. Not Elektron-based web apps, and, technically, not QT either.
Yeah, but mine wasn`t a terminal. My Powerbook had a real-deal Internet stack, GUI clients for e-mail and browser, and still used only a 33mHz CPU and 4MB. Oh, it was running software speech, too, and multitasking.
Oh, another reason not to use modern Windows. The e-mail situation. MS is doing away with desktop clients for Office fairly soon here, and Thunderbird is a sluggish mess. The future of e-mail for blinds on Windows is web mail. I`m not doing that until I have no other choice.
They`re both right. If I`m doing free work, to make something to solve a problem for me, I`m doing it my way. I`ll make it work, but I`m not worried about making it pretty, making it make sense to anyone besides me, localizing it, adding lots of error-handling, or even docs.
Typewriter? Nah. You can`t check e-mail without 8GB of RAM and a quad-core processor. Haha. I`m sure I used to do it in the 90s with 4MB of RAM and a 33mHz processor, but that can`t be right. Haha
As I understand it, his belief with Emacspeak was, in the future, everything would be data files and APIs, people would have various client devices for interacting with these, and Emacspeak would be a highly accessible client. Of course, the future didn`t work that way.
Yeah, I love the aural syntax highlighting and stuff like that. I wish more screen readers took advantage of that.
Yes. Don`t think it was ever disputed that Emacspeak is a superior speech-first environment. It`s still a ghetto. Living with it depends on Emacs being able to handle all your computing needs, which it can`t, for most people.
Developers are really bad at making things for non-developers. In normal, for-profit companies, you have designers and marketing staff to overcome that problem, as well as managers who force the devs to listen to them. In open source, that doesnt exist.
The problem with Linux is the fragmentation. If Microsoft or Apple really set its sights on a goal, they control the whole stack, from the bottom up, so the goal gets accomplished. With Linux, everything is fragmented and RedHat doesnt have that much control.
But blind developers need a certain basic platform to work off of. Windows has that, which has been built up for like the last 15 years or so, or more. Linux is just stagnant, especially over the last 10 years.
None of these OS`s are great. With Windows, File explorer is slow when navigating, command prompt doesn`t speak output sometimes, but I think it`s the best OS we have. Not cause MS a11y efforts, but cause of the community of blind developers. FOSS could use that.
Yeah I can`t really get into Mac so much. Like, especially web stuff, Google Docs and Sheets (which is required at work) isn`t so nice on Mac. Only Windows and ChromeBook work well with that.
Ah, that`s pretty awful. It really reminds me why blind people stick to Windows. Although, Android is *starting* to catch up to iOS as of like 4 years ago. Just sad that FOSS is in the state that it is.
Oh wow. Hopefully, with better cooperation and accessibility kinda growing in the industry, RH can grow that group and all that. It`d take some Gnome devs helping more than they talk about blind people doing it ourselves though. We can`t do it all.
Yeah, definitely. I hope he`s only the first, not the last.
Interesting. At least Red Hat has hired someone to work on it.
I don`t rock well enough to code well. I`d give a lot to help improve Linux accessibility. But helping others is good too. :)
S + Shift + Control + left or right.
