decided to build a gaming pc for the lounge ... linux user .... haven`t used windows since xp ... gaming pc replacing ps4 which is used by folks here for fortnite ... so windows is a must being sweeny doesn`t trust his own anti-cheat
if its going to break, installing x2go (not officially supported) will do it. They provide xpra but i`m going like for like atm, x2go is my rpd for linux
@_daemons well guess i get to play now, going to run flatpak instead community aur
@_daemons I dub thee "FreeStation" other than that i`m taking suggestions and its not Station McStationFace
@_daemons zero input lag from the k/m unlike win10
@_daemons scale was _off_ again obviously on reboot but when i say _off_ to be clear it was prefectly scaled to the display 1:1 but it is too small to read from the other end of my lounge, so i scaled it back to 0.5x in the display settings in xfce
@_daemons ... and thats the entire os installed in under 5m from usb
@_daemons so will need what it does underneath, it may just do LVM ... im going in blind see what happens
I went arch to test bleeding edge mesa+Vulkan, but the "installer" sucks so bad. Definitely would go Manjaro next time. Also tried Manjaro on a Pi4, and was pleasantly surprised.
@_daemons i`ll be ansiblising this setup as much as possible with the intent to roll it easy need to find/build a greeter that is purty tho
@_daemons right time to try out manjaro i guess, see how it goes. worst case i`ll roll back to something deb based
@_daemons but i have two options, xbox cloud or ps4+chaiki I`m going to have to add a featureset to chiaki to support launch options or xdotool (linux autohokey for you win folks) a solution of keypresses
100% fear of change. All my customers make money from compute, and all of them take a 5-10% performance hit in Windows, so Linux wins when CPU/GPU/IO matters. Outside of enterprise desktops or legacy apps, there`s zero advantage.
@_daemons but i agree with the sentiment
The other thing I hope to see as a side effect of this is huge pressure for Nvidia to properly embrace open source. AMD on Linux is a dream for a no-bullshit OS setup experience.
@_daemons so lets be fair, I run linux on the desktop which is where I game, but for all my work I remote into a linux vm and laptop with x2go. I using twitter right now on that vm I _have_ a windows vm installed but i have it powered off and only boot it if i want to yell at something.
@_daemons packed with hardware that they can`t make use of _without_ linux heh
Chicken and egg problem for so many devs is they won`t support Linux until there`s a decent percentage of users on it. I see WINE/Proton as a bridge, not a final resting place. It`s up to the users now. How many of them will put up with Win11 for fear of change?
@CasualGeekDave also helps that i have very little interest in any _current_ games so waiting is not an issue for me.
Literally nothing whatsover. Worse CPU, GPU, IO performance. Ads in the UI. Painful system update procedures. I can only hope Steam/Proton brings a revolution that helps people see a better path forward.
@CasualGeekDave the space isn`t perfect but also i`m not _forced_ to shell out cash for the os so I can live with these things. long term i reckon everyone will benefit from the work put into these projects
ok now windows wont reconnect to the bt controllers at all we`re done with windows i`m going to throw manjaro on there, never used it before so lets see how well it work to get _setup_
Literally only the games...and a few applications required by businesses I work with
but i started this project with windows as the intended target platform, i am truly shocked at how many shortcomings it has had already
and then fortnite in chromium xbox cloud gaming or similar for the time being is easily doable as a compromise _OR_ chiaki remote play until the ps4 dies
i don`t know if proton makes a difference to the experience of other launchers at all but its improving all the time steam being the primary target platform with gog as secondary doesn`t warrant the windows use case bullshit imo
the only think i can say for sure right now is _i dont get why_ people think windows is easier, i can only assume ignorance ds4 works oob at kernel level with trackpad as mouse in most linux distros so even if i _didn`t_ want to theme the login i can interact with it
at least with windows by default steam/epic etc seem to have a shared file repo, you don`t get that with linux and need to take steps to make it happen some stuff like amazon, epic games launcher has limited success in linux but its getting better
well here we are stuck, input lag in win10 is out of control, we cant ui control the ux with a controller and at least one primary app wont honor user profiles wooosh
sure that works, except steam doesn`t make use of the users profile directory so all you end up doing is logging in as the current steam user in the other users env cluster-f urgh
no problems lets runas with a password set for users, ahh but then how do we securely store that? we don`t want passwords exposed in plain text Start-Process takes a -Credential object .... sounds good lets look at Credential-Manager
alright then lets try a `service` account with runas style exec wait runas doesn`t work if you don`t have a password set
alright lets turn off password requirements for users uh, but we want to use ds4 (and other) controllers which aren`t enabled on the login screen so we`re stuck needing a rando mouse lying around
alright lets try an xbox controller surely that works oob without the need for sketch drivers it can also interact with the login screen but when bringing up the on screen keyboard to enter a password it wont allow focus on password input uh ok
alright lets pretend we have a stable controller connection (tested on another machine) .... and we wanted to make use of the windows profile system for use separation ... uh no .. you can`t do that because (most) controllers are disabled on the login screen
so now the ds4 is connected and shows up in the ds4windows application .... uh .. for about 20s before it disconnects with a read error ds4windows support dualsense as well ... ok lets try that ... same behaviour this is the same dongle I was using on linux while testing
paired -> doesn`t* ds4windows needs .net 5.0 .... sure lets grab it ... uh ok theres a cli, desktop and server version .... guess we need desktop .... sure anyway ds4windows installs a bunch of sketch drivers to run the controller, sure i`ll blindly trust those
the goal here is to reuse to the ps4 controllers with the pc ... so lets pair a controller .... ok its paired over bluetooth but does work .... lets install ds4windows .... oh ok it only run in userspace so user session exec
windows bluescreened on first boot after video drivers were install .... ok so reboot? ... yeh, we have ui
i installed the latest amd drivers and rebooted to no hdmi output _in the bios_ .... uh .... phyisically reconnected the cable and got video output
windows `game mode` doesn`t exist, that is you can`t kernel load drivers and have a nice ui for the users ... i wouldve thought this was a thing by now with that gamepass stuff they are doing .. stupid
need my 3000 series cpu to get to qflash anyway ... windows eh ...
oh i first i`ll just throw in here the motherboard shipped with a bios version that didn`t support the CPU (thanks lazy fuckhead seller) so I had to disassemble my main pc to flash a new bios
so i left it un? non? activated and had a look at setting it up for couch gaming .... lets begin the fun
what is the actual advantage of this os apart from `games`? I am so confused right now just trying to understand why folks put up with this shit
this is only the first of a myriad of issues i`ve encountered in the last few hours just to get windows _running_ why oh why do people use this OS?
boot new machine ... activation settings -> troubleshoot -> changed hardware "cannot activate" blah blah check devices -> vm device is "not activated"
transfer an old win10 license i used on a vm to a digital license linked to MS acc confirmd on on vm gui/slmgr retail channel license
